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What If PODCASTING & MEDITATION Could Change Your Life Forever? - Danny Miranda #265

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Danny Miranda highlights how podcasting has transformed his life, emphasising the importance of intuition and vulnerability in personal growth. 


The conversation explores how breakups can serve as catalysts for self-discovery and deeper connections, inspiring listeners to embrace their journeys and nurture their authentic selves. 


• The transformative power of podcasting 
• The significance of crossing 100 episodes 
• Personal growth through breakups and vulnerability 
• Embracing intuition and self-discovery 
• The role of meditation in fostering connection 
• Tools for cultivating self-trust and awareness 
• Redefining identity in alignment with present reality 
• Nurturing community and genuine relationships

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Speaker 1:

It was so crazy. Before we start this, I had a friend who lives in Adelaide, south Australia yes, and she's one of my good mates' little sisters when I come to Austin. She was like you've got to interview Danny Miranda and I was like all right, I'll follow him and hit him up. And then like didn't get the message from her because it was like crazy busy. And then when I saw you on Tuesday and I tagged you in my story, she was like oh my God, it was so funny. I was like well, there we go.

Speaker 2:

Is it Sophia? Sophia, yes, do you know her Well? I know her because I coached her boyfriend or partner, rock. So it's like the mind's exploding. It's awesome. Do you know Rock? No, I don't know him that well. I know, sophia, really well, I don't know, but yeah, okay, that is like blowing my mind. Adelaide and Austin are like brother and sister cities apparently.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, in terms of, like the way that they're set up, yeah, they are like really similar.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know anything. That's what he told me.

Speaker 1:

Well, anyway, bro, that's a good place to start the show. Thanks for coming on. That is just hectic. That has absolutely blown my brain. What the hell, Bro? I got some questions I want to ask you.

Speaker 2:

And the first one that I want to get into is for you is how has like podcasting and like starting a podcast benefited you? I think the better question is like like? How has it not benefited me? It has. It has entrenched itself into every part of my life. Podcasting um I? I specifically remember there was a point when I was just hanging out with my college friends where I must have done like 100 or 150 episodes at that time and one of my college buddies said dude, you ask such great questions.

Speaker 2:

And I realized no one had ever complimented me in that way before, and so I would say that one just like an ability to learn and be curious about people and it put me in that position. Another is just, it gave me an excuse to talk to the people I really admired and the people who are living life on their terms. I can now have a way to get an hour of their time and, uh, it's just. I mean the podcast that I've done. You know I've done 460 something episodes and it is. It has just been the thing that I've devoted my life to for three years of my life and the danny miranda podcast, and it was just like. This was what was everything to me as my baby? So, um, what has it given me? I mean everything, and, uh, it's the reason why I live in austin texas. Um, it's giving me amazing friends. It's given me ability to connect with people in a deeper way. So, yeah, so many things oh dude, it's crazy.

Speaker 1:

I'm really curious because I know there's people out there that I want to start a podcast or really haven't seen how powerful it can be once you start crossing the threshold of 100 to 200 podcasts.

Speaker 2:

Right, because it opens up this new realm of like I don't remember the statistics of it something along the lines of, however many podcasts, 90 of podcasts stop after episode 7 and then 90 of those stop after episode 20 whoa and what happens is you don't get the benefits of the compounding nature where one guest can introduce you to another guest.

Speaker 2:

That would blow your mind if you did 300 episodes, but the only reason you would get that opportunity is because you've done 300 in the past. It's really one of those things that I really enjoy things where anyone can do it but I will just do it more consistently. That feels like such a fun game for me to play, and the things that I'm doing now that I'm focusing my time and attention on are not necessarily podcasting, but it's writing and reading and meditating and it's like those are simple things that everybody can do. But I'm just going to be in the game of. Okay, I just am going to do this consistently, I'm going to do this every day, yeah, and that brings me a lot of joy to be in that game.

Speaker 1:

Especially for a longer time as well. Like I'm going to do this. You know, if we're speaking in a competitive way, I don't know, like sometimes people can be in competition on and off and it's like, well, the difference between the results that I'm going to get and if someone's going to go at it for longer, yeah, what for you? Before you started podcasting, did you ever hesitate? Did you procrastinate? Did you want to start? Then like, ah, maybe I can, maybe I can't, and then just went in like no what made you?

Speaker 2:

start, I I put out on twitter at the time it was called twitter uh. In 2020, I said who wants to talk on the phone? This is peak covid, uh, june of of 2020. And I got such amazing replies from people all over the world and people were just so excited to talk because it was a time when people felt most disconnected, and I had such great conversations that I was lit up by it and I was like I want to press record on these conversations. This is so much fun. I love talking to people, I love learning from people, I love asking questions. I love all the insights.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, man, it wasn't something I procrastinated, it was something that was like a clear download of yes, do this, go, go, go. And so I had the idea, probably in June or July of 2020. And then, by September 23rd 2020, I launched it and it just within 30 days. I had recorded 20 episodes and I loved it and people were loving it, who were guests and people. You know, some people commented and I had an audience of about 5,000 people on Twitter at the time. People were like this is good, I really like this, keep doing this. And it was just this feeling of I appreciate doing this. People appreciate me doing this. I'm going to keep doing it.

Speaker 2:

So, that was the origins of it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that's really important. I think that I took away from that is like you listen to your intuition of like. If people were saying I hesitating or procrastinating, I'm like, well, maybe they are procrastinating or hesitating because they're not listening to the intuition enough yeah I listen to what their body is saying, which is what something I was listening to you talk about when you're doing like daily 60 minute meditations yeah and you're like yeah, I, I feel so aligned and focused because I'm allowing so much room yeah, I mean, it's so true when I um, I didn't realize that at the time, but when I, before podcasting, I was doing something called dropshipping and I was every day.

Speaker 2:

When dropshipping I'd have to create ads.

Speaker 1:

Are you still doing that by the?

Speaker 2:

way. No, I'm not still doing that. And when I was going to create ads, I would be listening and watching podcasts and being like, wow, I wish I could do something like that. But I don't even know if I'm being completely, 100% honest with myself. I don't think I was saying like I wish I could do this. I think I was saying like this is just a fun thing to do and I'm procrastinating by not doing like I'm procrastinating what I actually want to do, and so this is bad, that I'm watching podcasts. I actually should be doing my real work.

Speaker 2:

And it's so interesting how the thing that, for me, the thing that I'm procrastinating on, is the thing that was actually aligned with what I should have been doing. So I think that's an important thing to pay attention to is like what do you do when you procrastinate? I think that's an important thing to pay attention to is like, what do you do when you procrastinate? Because that might be what your true potential actually lies in and what doing it will actually give you the most juice. Yeah, that's because, like, you love it. Yeah, and it's because you would do it if you weren't being paid to do it. It's because you do it because it's for the fun of it, right? And I found that out a year after by just stumbling upon and listening to what I actually enjoy doing.

Speaker 1:

It's amazing, and one thing that I really respect about podcasters is anyone who's done like anything over a hundred or 200 episodes is.

Speaker 1:

I'm like especially if you've done interview podcasts or you've researched before doing a solo podcast Because when this person is basically like full-time, like full-time studying almost at uni, like they're learning from you know, like amazing people, they're getting the downloads, it's like why would you go and ask something from you know, or like Google something, when you can talk to someone who's talked to like hundreds of different people and distilled everything that they know into like something small? How has that helped you in your coaching?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean I wouldn't say that it has been directly related to coaching, but I would say that just getting to learn from people in the way of learning about them before I mean I would listen to you know three to 10 to 20 episodes of them on a podcast before they would ever sit down in front of me and I would really get to know them at an intimate level where they would often say how do you know that? And it's like I know that because I care about you and I love you and I really want, I wanted to come into this conversation prepared and so you know, the things that I would ask people about always came from the things that they shared publicly but often didn't even remember sharing publicly, and so I was getting this deep insight and well of information on the truth of who they were, and that was so fun for me to research and learn. So, yeah, just very grateful for that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what do you think it is about you that really genuinely cares and wants to connect with people? That's one thing that I've really noticed about you in general. You're really like community and connection focused. Like how did you get to that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think the more that I connected with myself, the more I wanted to connect with people. Okay, so what you're seeing externally is a deep, deep internal connection of okay, what does Danny actually care about? What are Danny's strengths, what are his weaknesses? Why does he do the things that he does? What? And like?

Speaker 2:

I've spent a lot of time with myself, you know, in meditation. I've done over 200 hours in the last year, right, so it's like a lot of time just being with. What is what is arising naturally in my consciousness when I have no choice? That deep connection with myself makes me want to give that to other people and makes me want to be with other people and makes me want to ask questions to them and learn from them and be like, if I didn't have that deep connection to myself, I don't believe I would want to connect to others, because my opinion is that we can only connect with others to the extent that we've connected with ourselves. So, yeah, I think that comes from the meditation, that comes from learning about myself, that comes from the work of going inside over and over and over again.

Speaker 1:

What have you learned about yourself? Like 2024, some of the big moments.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, life is always shaping you and one huge thing I learned last year was, like through the most difficult moment of my life, like I was in a hotel room in 2024 for like six weeks. I had no apartment and I would hop around from hotel to hotel because I broke up, or me and my girlfriend broke up on the same in the same week that the person that I was renting apartment from uh like came back to their apartment and I was left without a girlfriend who I love deeply and without, uh, an apartment. And I was just in this position for six weeks of really being so upset with my current situation and not understanding really why that I had. There was so much of that situation where I wasn't taking responsibility, I wasn't, um, I I wasn't living with complete love towards myself and I could see that how the relationship transpired is I was, I was, I was not doing the things for myself towards the end of it that were in alignment with the person that I wanted to be, and it was. You know, it was a rough lessons, rough trying to understand. Why do I feel so bad right now? It's like because part of myself betrayed myself and that's painful and it took me a long time to realize that, to reconcile that, and it took me doing 75 hard 75 day program where you basically work out and read and take a progress picture and follow a clean diet. That forced me to show love to myself, to go to a new place of connecting with myself, and that's really what I learned from 2024.

Speaker 2:

The biggest lesson is no matter if you betray yourself, you can always get back. It might be really, really painful, but you can start right now. You could start today and it's got to start small. For me, it was okay, I'm just going to meditate every day, which I did even while being in that position. Then it was okay, I'm going to show people my current state, I'm going to record videos about it and post a daily video every day, and I did that for 10, 11 days and then I was like I don't want to feel like shit on camera every day for a hundred days in a row.

Speaker 2:

I want to move past this and so I did. And I did 75 hard, and that's the beautiful thing about life. It's like no matter how much you've betrayed yourself, no matter how deep you've gotten on something that you don't want to do, you can always turn it around. Today you can start small and you can turn around. I know that for sure, cause I know how it felt in May and june of 2024 do you find that, like with your coaching?

Speaker 1:

have you worked with a lot of people that going through breakups?

Speaker 2:

um, I don't recall. Um, what I noticed in my coaching, which is really cool, is like how often the things that I'm dealing with will mirror itself in the people I work with it's it's really cool and it's just goes to show that you know what is happening inside so often just reflects externally. I've definitely spoke to a bunch of people about breakups. I don't remember any specific case of working with anyone about a breakup, but it will be cool too in the future I'm sure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, cause I just find in general, like breakups is such huge catalyst for growth. Yeah, and I went through one. I was like three months ago now, three, four, three, four months ago.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Halfway through October and at the end of October, and this time, because it was like, this is like my fourth or fifth big breakup that I've had I've been able to like take a back seat and just observe the whole thing happening?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's been fascinating in my brain and I've been doing a lot of research on breakups, but I've've been like there's still not enough like resources on this thing which is so catastrophic. Yeah, for like the nervous system also like why don't people why can't we have sick days, like when people have breakups expect people to work? Yeah, they have this huge trauma. It's just like going through their mind yeah like, like blows my brain I I definitely felt that.

Speaker 2:

I felt this, this sense of like that that was a death. You know that was a death and like, wow, I've never experienced a loss of somebody I was so deeply connected to before, so that that really messed me up and I I have a whole new level of empathy for why people go to the extremes of like gambling and drugs and alcohol. Like I felt all of that. I felt this desire to like just blow up my life in this remarkable way and I'm like, wow, I could see why people do crazy shit. Um, so the level of empathy gave me for pain.

Speaker 2:

I mean and that's also another thing is, I would say, in October of 2023, um, I would have shared things in a way that was like I know the way and like, okay, you're dumb for not listening to this. And in October 2024, it was more like I think I know the way and here's some questions that maybe help, and if you don't want to change your behavior, I totally get it. So it was a lot more humility and the breakup gave me a lot more humility in just understanding people and understanding why people don't make decisions that are in their best interest because they're going to be painful, like I really. Just the empathy just went to a whole different level after that situation.

Speaker 1:

I love this topic so much. I don't know about you, but I was literally walking through whole foods at one stage and it was in the last month and I was just walking through the alcohol section and because it's in like I don't drink yeah, I'll have like, yeah, like a straight vodka when I'm out, just one, some people, something like that.

Speaker 1:

I've got a really good relationship that I'm drunk in. Yeah, and I was walking by this alcohol section because it's in the breakup, my mind's like should I just buy a bottle of alcohol and just down the whole thing? Right like and I'm like whoa right, where did that thought come from? Like this is crazy. I'd never think of this any other time. Did you have any experience like that when you were in the breakdown?

Speaker 2:

Oh for sure. I mean, it was like if I wasn't on 75 hard, it was like I would go to a bar right now just to numb this feeling, like I don't want to feel this pain, like get out of here, like I'll do anything to not feel this pain. So, you know, having 75 hard really grounded me, but it wasn't until I would say, like september I brought we, we had the breakup in in may and like by september it was like, okay, now I'm like actually over this. And october, like all right, yes, like, but it was a six months of my life. You know, it's how it felt, yeah how did you manage?

Speaker 1:

like, was were you managing? Just, was it through going like deep in meditation, like yeah, I did great support.

Speaker 2:

yeah, I had great friends, but I would say what I met, how I managed, was doing 75 hard. Yeah, this program really gave me something to work on every day and allowed me to show up for myself, and I just would notice, month over month, that it got better and better.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and what did you learn about yourself? In terms of when you're self-reflecting, You're like okay so there's some things here that like, some things you probably realize that you actually liked about yourself. You're like well, I like those traits and they'd be positioned to where you're like. Oh, there's some things here that, like I really wanted to shift. Do you remember what they were?

Speaker 2:

I mean I wrote a note in my phone of lessons learned from the breakup, where I had, you know, I have 15 or 20, just that, really, and really that started to help me a lot because I could see how it was building me and I could see that, oh, this is actually really helpful that this happened, and having the tangible proof of that, oh, I learned this lesson today and I learned how I showed up in this way, and so that was very helpful for me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, you know, but to answer your question, I mean, one thing was just this feeling that, like I knew what I wanted from the beginning of the relationship and still betrayed myself, you know, because I'm sure some part of me was like what I actually want is too good to be true. And so this like inherent settling that was going on, that I was accepting something for myself that wasn't in alignment with my actual vision, but it was close enough where I said, okay, this is good enough, let me try to see if this will be good enough. And it wasn't. And it wasn't in my heart and there was something in me that it couldn't be that way and it was good for me to learn. It was good for me to like hold standards for myself in a deeper way and and really say, no, what I actually want is what I want, and that's that's valid it's just crazy the depth of emotions that comes through that.

Speaker 1:

And then people like I find don't want to talk about it too much. I'm like I can understand I find don't want to talk about it too much. I'm like I can understand why I don't want to talk about it, but also knowing that when you do talk about it it's like so free yeah, I think for me it's like people don't want to talk about the place they're vulnerable.

Speaker 2:

Um, while they're vulnerable in it and you could be vulnerable in it for a day, a week, a month, a year, 10 years, a lifetime and I decided, you know, I don't really want to be vulnerable in these ways forever. I just I like I, I just would rather live in the world where I make mistakes and I own the mistakes and I move on like yeah and I, and I can see that the thing that I did was me, but it wasn't. So you did something in sixth grade, when you were 10 years old or 11 years old, but how much do you actually relate and resonate with that person? Oh, yeah, right, it's the same consciousness who experienced that, the same awareness behind the eyes, but it's a different body, it's a different mind, it's a different way of being, it's completely different, and yet you experienced it. So there's some level of ownership and accountability that you have to take for having that experience, and there's a knowing that that wasn't actually you. That was just one thing you experienced, and it's not to that that wasn't actually you. That was just one thing you experienced. And it's not to avoid or push away the thing that you experienced and your choices that you make. But it's the knowing that just because you experience something does not make it uh. So you so irredeemably you.

Speaker 2:

If you won the super bowl, you could forever think of yourself as a super world champion, but you're not a super bowl champion. You didn't win the Super Bowl the last year. If you're 60 years old, right Like you didn't win the Super Bowl, but you're still calling yourself a Super Bowl champion, that's the story you would like to live in. That's God bless. But that's not actually what happened in that moment. In the most recent moment, the Super Bowl was won by a different team and a different person, and when you get too attached to any of the identities that you've been, you create suffering within yourself, because then you start comparing yourself to the version of yourself that won the Super Bowl, or you start comparing yourself to the version of you who had your worst moment and live in that. And the truth is you are neither. You are somebody who experienced that. You experienced your worst moment, you experienced your best moment and you are neither. You're just getting the opportunity to experience behind your eyes what that experience is like.

Speaker 1:

It's so true. Do you think it's common for people that you work with that have these identity crises, have these identity?

Speaker 2:

processes.

Speaker 2:

I think it's yeah, I think it's common in throughout the Western society of, like we.

Speaker 2:

I got raised in a world where, when you get these grades, you go to this school and when you get this, when you go to the school, you are the type of person who went to the school and therefore you are valuable, or you're not valuable because you didn't go to this school and so you're attached to your job, you're attached to the college you went to, you're attached to your grade and those things are not you, and I think people are waking up more and more to that idea that you're not your job, but people are still associating with themselves as their job, but people are still associating with themselves as their job.

Speaker 2:

I was listening to a clip the other day from a guy who was talking about his time in college football and how, when he scored a touchdown, he was the man at all the parties, and it's like it was 20 years after that moment and I could understand why that peak experience was still holding a grasp on who he was and who he wanted to be. The truth is, he's not the guy who's going to the parties right now. He's just a guy who's talking about that experience and I just think it's common for people to want their identity to be something different than what they are, but the truth is they are what they are in this moment, and I'm a guy right now talking on a podcast.

Speaker 1:

I'm listening to the like inner complexities of that Cause. I'm like, as you're talking, I'm like, oh, whereabouts is it where I have an identity thing. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, the small things there around attachment to identities and it makes so much sense as like, but what's most important is, what are you doing? What are you doing now? Yeah, like, who are you now? And if you don't like that person, as you said beforehand, it's like how many days do I have to be vulnerable on social media I love that, by the way, I'm going to post something vulnerable about this breakup every single day on social media. How many days do I have to do this before I'm over posting vulnerable shit on social media? Right same thing. It's's like how many days do you want to like? How many days do you have to be like just in pain for who you are, of this attachment to this identity that you don't really resonate with every single day until you're like I want to change this shit.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I don't think that having an identity is necessarily a bad thing, but it's when you are no longer that thing and you're not acting as that thing and you're still associating with that thing that it can be painful. Yeah Right, If you have somebody who ran marathons their whole life but now they can't run anymore and they still think of themselves as a marathon, they're just going to feel upset every time they think of running. But it's like now you're walking.

Speaker 2:

So I guess what I'm pointing to is identity is not bad inherently. It's just something that can be useful actually to build you into the person that you want to be in any season of your life. But when you are no longer that thing, it's okay to let it go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you can choose who you identify yourself as. Because you can choose yourself as someone in the future of like oh, I can identify myself as this person, unconsciously, and as someone that you don't like. But then you can also choose the identity of, let's say, for an example. It's like, oh, I want to see myself as a CEO. But then you become more of a tyrant and you become a bit of a dick and you start bossing people around, you get bad feedback from them and you're like oh, I feel really guilty about this, but I'm the leader, so I have to show up that way, like that's going to piss people off. Or you can show yourself up as, like you know, I'm the loving leader and I take really good care of myself and those yeah, yeah, that that makes a lot of sense, I mean what identities do you find that you struggle to detach yourself from the most that you feel would be beneficial to detach yourself from?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a good question. There'd be a few. I'd say one that I want to. Actually it's like the opposite I want to attach myself more to is probably like the bodybuilder. I always find myself like guilty for having a strong physique, for someone who competes in bodybuilding competitions and like cause we compete like as a natural athlete. You compete like once every two years.

Speaker 1:

So, it's not like you're competing regularly so you have to see yourself as a bodybuilder that whole time. Even though you're not competing for two years, you're like and now I'm going to compete this year. So it kind of like comes and goes, that like identity.

Speaker 2:

So I'd probably like to attach myself to that more. Where's the?

Speaker 1:

guilt come from good question right live, not live coaching no, I'm sorry, I'm all about it. Let's go um. Shining too bright, yeah, I'd probably say like being too much, being too big and pissing people off. So sometimes what I'll do is I'll overcompensate where, when I meet people.

Speaker 2:

I'll have to like weave into the conversation that I bodybuild or I Right, you don't have to weave it in because they see it. You don't need to weave it, it's just apparent. There's no weaving necessary. We don't need to, guys.

Speaker 1:

We can see, but sometimes I still feel like I have to, because otherwise I'm going to get judged. Or if I wear a tight shirt or a tight singlet or something, most of the times I have to consciously be like give a fuck. If anyone comments on your muscles, man, do you like them? Just wear the tight t-shirt.

Speaker 2:

So if, if somebody compliments you, you still feel bad?

Speaker 1:

what the compliment? Because sometimes you get people that will like backhand. Compliment you what?

Speaker 2:

what's an example?

Speaker 1:

okay, uh, why are you taking your shirt off?

Speaker 2:

it's cold outside why are you taking your shirt right?

Speaker 1:

and I'll have my shirt off and it's cold outside because I'm like vitamin D Right, I always get get my shirt off. I remember the first time I went on a date with, like, my ex partner. First time was like the sun was out. I'm like I'm going to feel like an idiot taking my shirt off right now because the sun's out values is getting some sun. So I was like fuck it. Then, like we talked later on and she was like, yeah, I thought you're a bit of a dick the first time you took your shirt off in the sun like that. But then when I got to know you, I was like, oh, you just, you just take your shirt off because you like the sun. So it's like there's little comments on how people perceive me or how they're going to perceive me as if I'm like some hockey bodybuilder. You know, part of me is right. Part of me is that part of me isn't, um, like that fear and, and.

Speaker 2:

So when somebody says that, yeah, you feel like, oh, I'm judged right now, I'm less than I. I should put my shirt back on. Yeah, and what is the unconscious agreement you're making in that moment with yourself?

Speaker 1:

yeah, it's something you might be able to articulate it for me, x equals not good enough, right, but the x is, whatever it is, that I'm doing it, or if I shine too bright, I'm gonna hurt, hurt someone else or piss them off, or they're going to judge me, and that judgment makes me feel not good enough.

Speaker 1:

When I'm not good enough, I play small. When I start playing small, then I regret what I'm doing in the moment, which usually prevents me from getting to the goal that I want to get to, which makes me freeze. Sometimes, get into this freeze, I just feel resistance and I can't break through.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that that all makes a lot of sense. What about their right like they're? They're judging me and they're right to judge me. Yeah, right like that. That's really what's going on. Yeah, and it's the unconscious agreement is they're right to judge me and I agree with their judgment of me the truth is hilarious.

Speaker 2:

It's like the truth is so true and so what does it look like to be like, okay, that person can judge me as much as they want, and that's not me. That's not what I view of me. Yeah, right, like, okay, put your shirt back on, is what someone could say, yeah, and you could say I love that, that's your perspective and opinion and I love having a shirt off, so I'm going to take my shirt off. Yeah, right, like, you get to decide what the comment means.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I find that's been like for myself personally. It's been such a hard like journey not to wear other people's emotions, whether it's like you know, aggression, sadness, rejection, judgment, like whatever. It is like not actually wearing those has been really challenging. Have you found that common around the people that you work with?

Speaker 2:

Sure, yeah, absolutely. And it's so sad that we feel we have to be in the energetic state of the people around us and I think it's the most natural thing for us to do. Everyone's sad I'm going to be sad. Everyone happy I'm going to be happy. I feel weird not being different. But then people also feel weird being too similar. So it's like, bro, you don't have to put on anyone else's emotions, and if you're too similar, you're going to be upset. If you're too different, you're going to be upset. It's like, why don't you just be yourself fully? It's crazy.

Speaker 1:

I love that you asked that question but you know, I've come to conclusion over like the past couple of years. It's like it might be different for people maybe Gen Zs, I don't know but I'm like it's actually challenging to be yourself.

Speaker 1:

I was listening to Theo Vaughn in one of his like comedy skits it's just on Spotify when he's early ones. He was on this skit where he was talking about having a date with a woman. He's like there's three ways that you can get women. One you gotta get have the money. Man like the money gets the chicks. And if you haven't got money, the second thing you gotta have is you could have the stuff. You're gonna have drugs. It's like you gotta have cocaine. Essentially he's like you get these.

Speaker 1:

He's talking about being in la and he's like I call them. You know, it's like blow cane, blow cane girls, because they come around like blue, like, come around like after, like like drugs or whatever. And then he's like and he was talking about some experience with that. And then the third one he's like or you gotta be yourself, fuck that who wants to be themselves. And it was really funny listening to that because I went to comedy mothership at joe rogan's like the other night for a stand-up, um open mic night and what I noticed, man, was most of the comedians were all downing themselves. Yeah, the second they couldn't get a laugh, they just paid themselves out and they just talked about how they couldn't get a laugh. They just paid themselves out.

Speaker 1:

And they just talked about how they couldn't get pussy, how they were drunk driving or you know some shit like that. Honestly, like some of the jokes were hilarious the ones that weren't about that but those ones just made me like upset. I was like, oh, why do you have to down yourself?

Speaker 2:

it's, it's it's. It's wild to realize that when people don't get the desired outcome that they want, their first inclination is to put themselves down. Oh, straight away, um, sad, um. And it speaks to what happened when they were growing up that they've just internalized and made true. One story that I've told before that I absolutely love is from Sarah Blakely's parents.

Speaker 2:

Sarah Blakely is the founder of Spanx billion dollar company absolute beast of a woman in all the best ways, and she said that when she was growing up, her dad, every night at dinner, made her say one thing that she failed at that day, and if she didn't have one thing that she failed at, he would be upset. So she got rewarded for having things that she failed at. It's like brilliant, right you? You see the brilliance of that. That's so genius, right? So you, you fail and you get positive reinforcement that completely changes your relationship with failure. So now you're not beating yourself up. You're saying, of course I failed. This is amazing, let's go. I tried something and I didn't get the result I wanted. It's all good, life is going to keep going. And now this shows that I'm one step closer to the actual thing that I want.

Speaker 1:

It's crazy because the way like I was brought up reflecting on that is the complete opposite. Yeah, anytime you fuck up or do something wrong. Yeah, like we're coming for you. How dare you?

Speaker 2:

so I'm like that, just like makes so much sense and it's, and it's so cool to witness in my own, like family, with this perspective. And, um, my, I remember my dad forgot his wallet wallet at a restaurant we were at and he's like I'm such a fucking idiot for losing my wallet and I never would have even noticed that. But I could see all of the times in my life where that was the self-talk with him for himself for doing something wrong. Now, what if the self-talk is I lost this, and what divine moment is going to occur because I lost this? I'll never forget. You know, october 2023 or 2024, I forget which one.

Speaker 2:

It was October 2023, I lost my watch and I hadn't lost my watch ever, so I was like my watch and I hadn't lost my watch ever. So I was like I lost my watch. This is amazing. I wonder what this is going to lead to, and I'm searching around my apartment knowing that, like I lost my watch for a specific reason that I don't yet know, I find the watch. I go on a run and I bump into Lex Friedman and he's walking and I'm running, so I stop and I have a great conversation with him and I'm like, wow, how cool is this. You know that I got this opportunity that I wouldn't have got if I didn't lose my watch. And that's the point of life is when you start seeing how, when you mess up, it is actually for your highest good. That's when life starts to get really fun, because you know you cannot mess up, dude. That is crazy.

Speaker 1:

Have you had any other divine moments like that?

Speaker 2:

Because that Every day I mean specifically like that, where I mean what I've started to realize is that when you mess up, it's not actually messing up, and it's important for you to see the ways you've messed up and see that they're not actually messed up at all, Like they're actually exactly how it was supposed to go. None come to my mind initially in that vein, but it would be cool to look. I mean, I have in my phone hundreds of moments like this and that's what's so cool about writing them down.

Speaker 1:

That's like you do write them down Every time you have a moment you're like oh no, intersection yes, like good stories.

Speaker 2:

Oh, the best. Yesterday, I mean, I'm walking into a restaurant. I'm saying to myself the book that I'm writing is going to sell over 100,000 copies. No, actually it's going to sell over a million copies is what I was feeling deeply when I walked into this restaurant. I sit down, have a meal and as I get out from the meal and I look directly next to me and the guy sitting next to me is talking to someone says this guy found me through this book that I wrote. And I look at him in the eyes like I know that guy and I don't know where exactly. I know it clicked who it was for me. I'll withhold his name and I look him up after. And this guy sold his first book and 2 million people read his book and I was like that's how close the thing that I was envisioning in my head.

Speaker 2:

This morning I log on to LinkedIn and a publisher has viewed my profile. His publisher viewed my profile. So I say all this to say that this is I'm writing the book on divine moments because these moments are so important and because recognizing them and spreading them and being really seeing the divinity in them has been so impactful for me, and I bring all that up to say, like I mean, we started this conversation just now talking about your self-talk when things go wrong. Your self-talk when things go right can also be like oh no, this can't possibly happen to me, I don't deserve this, this isn't right for me. I got to play small, I can't shine brightly, I can't tell this story immediately after it happened.

Speaker 2:

This is too good to be true, or it can be. I am somebody who brings in divine moments to my life and it doesn't stop. Because I don't stop and I'm always in the flow of love, abundance, energy coming to my way, things connecting God, truth, joy. Those are the things that flow with me Wherever I go. There they are that's my perspective. When good things happen to me, therefore, more good things happen to me. So just wanted to share that to give the other side of when things go right, it's so true, and I.

Speaker 1:

It's just. As you're speaking, there's two things that come up I was thinking. One was like how can you lose if your mind is thinking like that all the time? Like if that's your base state of your mind and that's in it like nothing's a problem. Any little fear as well. I really like the quote marcus aurelius it's like nothing is as ever good or as bad as it seems yeah, right, just to be like real stoic with it, yeah right, it's like good, celebrate the high moments because, like you deserve that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but when you start looking at things and they're like, oh, this seems bad or this seems challenging, whatever, this is like, oh, usually it can be solved with a text message. Yeah, that's like, yeah, most things to be solved with a text message or a phone call, and you're like, oh well, that's weight, come off me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. Just, it's like so often one task, we bring up this big story and we have a big story about one task that needs to be done, that we really don't want to do, because it reminds us of something we were trying to avoid as a child.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's all a child, yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's all.

Speaker 1:

Resistance? Yeah Well, I always find out. For me it's like. It is like some sort of resistance that is there. Have you, do you know? The other thing that I want to mention was do you know Carl Jung? Have you read any of his stuff?

Speaker 2:

I was gifted his autobiography in the past month by my dear friend, max victor and um I've flipped through it, but I haven't yeah, I haven't read it fully what you're speaking to in divine moments.

Speaker 1:

What I think would be really interesting to look at is just like carl jung's work on synchronicities. Yes, yes, because he has very closely related, so closely related, but I just think it's like they're different, because a divine moment is a divine moment, but the, the synchronicities that interlock them with what Carl Jung references and talks about, I think would just be so fascinating. Because, basically, his argument is just like these things happen when you're in alignment. Yes, and when you're in alignment, these things happen as you want to look for them and follow them. Yeah, because the second that they're not happening you off. Yeah, yeah, have you found that?

Speaker 2:

yeah, absolutely. Um, in my mind, synchronicities and divine moments are one in the same. Yeah, and I was writing it and started calling them synchronicities and then then I just I felt more called to the term divine moments.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like divine moments Cause I feel like divine moments for me, like the difference for me is like learning for your stuff is like. Divine moments is like the difference between like cause, you can go like oh, that's a synchronicity, oh, that's a synchronicity, but divine moment is like whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's deeper, right, it's deeper. It's like this, oh, it's like you know, when maybe two or three or four synchronicities all land at the one time and you're like oh, this feels fantastic.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like when you said, when we're going at the run club and you're like you know, I had a divine moment of like getting to Austin, whole divine moment. It's like oh, hell, yeah, relate to that, but a synchronicity I feel like smaller little bumps Interesting.

Speaker 2:

I love that distinction and this is why I'm so happy I'm talking about it on a podcast before completing the first draft, because that's an interesting lens that I had not viewed it through is that a synchronicity could be, these little nudges, these little moments, and the divine moment being the way the synchronicities all connect to the perfect story Bang. I mean, I hadn't thought of that. That's perfect. Maybe that ends up in the book.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I hope so That'd be cool to read. Be like, yeah, boy, no, but that's what, in terms of like when we went for a run, you tell me about your divine moment. Because I've had them, yeah, moment. Because I've had them, yeah, right, and there's definitely a difference between oh, I mean, the flow and synchronicities are happening right. And then when having a divine moment, like like when I had a breakup in july last year, I like, as I was telling you, I had, like this, walking on the beach listening to joe dispenser meditating like a beast morning walk, let's go.

Speaker 1:

Sun's not even up, sun's not up. Yep, and then bang. If I got hit by electricity like a thundershock, I was like whoa, go to Austin, do podcasting.

Speaker 2:

Go to Austin, do podcasting. That's what it said.

Speaker 1:

My whole body just went and I was like okay. I was like, okay, I've got to get there ASAP. So I was like when my lease runs out, I'm gone.

Speaker 2:

Wow, lease runs out. I went. Now I'm here, yeah, yeah, that was a divine moment, but I want to highlight you, there was a part where you didn't listen. Right, like that's also part of divine moments of like, when you feel the call and sometimes you're like I'm not doing that. That seems crazy, right, yeah, yeah, tell me about that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so it told me to go like straight away. Right, it was just like you just need to go to austin, but at the time it was like, okay, relationship was the first time that we broke up, so it was like you know, just in this period of like oh I don't want to go well it was not so much like I don't want to go, it was like I still want her back.

Speaker 1:

First I want to sort shit out, like with her. First I'm going to grind, hustle, get things sorted, um, not break the lease, whatever it is. Yeah, you know, we're like talking about it because everything was so like undecided, right, yeah, and like we got back together and I was like, yeah, like manifested that because, like I was like I love her always, will part of me. She was absolutely incredible. So I was like I really want to be able to have that. So we got back together and then, like when we got back together, like cool, when our lease runs out, talked, that's when, you know, I basically want to go like straight to austin from there. Then we had broke up again, like right before the lease like ran out.

Speaker 1:

And this one was like there was like no contact. It's come to the point where we're just like, no, we need to like cut this. And that was like healed me at the time, cause I was like ugh, like I just like loved her so much. I was like, oh, my goodness to go through. So, whilst trying to make all those decisions, it was like all right, I got to get to Austin, but first I feel like I need to kind of emotionally cleanse everything that's coming up. So I went to Japan to snowboard for a bit, went to New York and then ended up here and I'm kind of happy Like I did and I didn't, because one part of me was like when I got here and it was like two weeks.

Speaker 2:

I was like ah, why didn't I just come here straight?

Speaker 1:

away. But then another part of me was like you needed to not be in the state you were while you were in Austin, because then I think I would have had a different relationship being here, of being like oof, I'm making a lot of connections with pain whilst I'm here Interesting. So that was just a thought that I had. I don't know if it's like true or not. Yeah, once I got here, I was just like oh, this, this feels right this feels right and it's been.

Speaker 1:

A lot of synchronicities have been happening, yeah no surprise.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I think that's what's so cool about just getting the call in the way that you did is there's always another moment. Yeah, right, there's always another opportunity. And, yeah, you might go through more pain because you don't listen to it the first time, but you always get another chance. And that's kind of what I what I've started talking about of like it's okay to betray yourself. Like in that moment, in some small way, you betrayed yourself by not coming when you were told to come here, definitely, and you still had another chance. Yeah, and that's the beautiful part about life.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it's crazy In terms of like, you know, intuition, of like if I was to fully honor my highest authenticity, I would have packed everything up, broke the lease and gone like the next week, like that's kind of what India was saying. Yeah, I didn't want to listen to it because it was so loud and it was like so big and I was like, oh, that's like get out of here with that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't want to hear that right now. I got stuff to do here, yeah, literally, and that's why I believe I do. I have such admiration for people who deeply listen to their intuition, above everything because just that story points out it is so difficult and that's why I try to be as clear of a vessel when I meditate, because if I didn't meditate, there's no world in which I am getting those downloads, that insight, that clarity, that understanding. There's no way I can follow my truth if I don't listen to myself. And so to follow that intuition is one thing, to listen to it is an entire like to carve out the time and space, to just be with yourself, to hear whatever is supposed to come through.

Speaker 2:

Choose your next thought. You cannot choose your next thought If something is coming through you right now, when you close your eyes, that tells you what you're supposed to be doing. Do you realize how crazy that is? Yeah, like you could just sit in a room for 20 minutes or an hour and things will come through you that will tell you what to do. Yeah, do you realize how insane?

Speaker 1:

that is it's crazy.

Speaker 2:

So when you're, when you carve out space for that, that that is incredible, like you did. And then to listen to the things that you're being told that seem contradictory to how you're living oh man, get out of here with that, I don't want to listen to that sometimes I get it. I fully get it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's scary man. There was like multiple times I don't know about you, but even there was like parts where my body was just like yelling at me during the relationship. Yeah, was like parts where my body was just like yelling me, yelling at me during the relationship. Yeah, where it was like, oh, your journey core.

Speaker 1:

You've never broken up with anyone, so you have to do breakup right here like with a really intimate partner, somebody you've been with for a long time, haven't, like, ended a breakup like that. Yeah, it was like, oh, and I was like I don't want to listen to that. Yeah, I don't want to listen, yeah, yeah, because that's gonna be uncomfortable. So let's let that thought go. Yeah, I feel like sometimes thoughts will come up a few times and like trying to tell if it's legit or not, if it's intuition or not. It's hard to discern and for me, I'm like, if it comes up like so regularly, yeah, like all the time, where it's not just a little bit, it's like all the time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like that has to, you know, have some attention paid yeah, I mean, I remember at during my last uh relationship, like towards the end of it, every time I meditated it was like you have to break up this one and I was like I don't want to do that, get them, get out of here. And it would come up so strongly that I remember there was one time or twice, twice that I can recall where, before I start podcasts, I meditate and I could not do the podcast because I had this come up With the guests. I have the guests in the studio and I'm meditating. I'm like I can't do this podcast right now.

Speaker 2:

And it happened more than once, and so that's how strongly I want myself to reject the thing that I know to be true could you imagine that? Just be like hey, you know what no you can't that's not today well, that's, that's why people drink, that's what I, you know, you could, you could ignore that so long by drinking by, by going into whatever coping mechanism you want to choose, and I understand why people would because it's hard, it's difficult, it doesn't make sense sometimes, even if it's in your highest good, oh my.

Speaker 1:

God, I couldn't agree more. How do you think this applies to business?

Speaker 2:

I think people have intuition around certain moves in business that are really uncomfortable, that don't make any sense. What do you mean? I'm supposed to make all my money from this new app that I haven't even tried once and it's like that doesn't even make sense. I mean I think about Michael Singer's story from the Surrender Experiment. Oh, what a story.

Speaker 2:

Where he goes from… building houses. He goes from the middle of the woods and now all of a sudden he starts building houses. And he's never built a house in his life and building houses is how he's going to make an income. And he just wants to meditate in the woods and now he's building houses. And so he goes from that to then. He goes to a store one day and starts, sees a computer, he becomes in awe of it, he starts programming and that leads to building one of the biggest medical software companies in the world. I mean, it is so ridiculous. But you know, I think this is something that has been true. For me is that the more that I've listened to it, and the more that I've listened to the thing that didn't make sense, the easier, it does get.

Speaker 1:

What do you mean by that?

Speaker 2:

Well, it's easier for Michael Singer, for example, to start coding and he loves to start coding and he loves to code and he loves computers than it was for him to start building houses, because he had years in between. He saw what building houses did. He saw how life showed him the best possible path path, I would say for me.

Speaker 2:

I moved to Austin. I moved to Austin because I felt such a calling and a longing towards the city and then I was shown how life wanted me here as well and I saw how that I felt in Austin the first week and how that felt so right and so true, even though it didn't make sense, from moving from New York to here, and I could see, looking back, how important that was and how rich that feels to me inside. So, because I have that under my belt of this felt right even though it didn't make sense. And now I understand why. The more stuff like that you have in life, the easier it gets to trust the next time you have this thing that doesn't make sense, that you want to do. Because you have the history of I trusted myself. Before it didn't make sense, but now it does.

Speaker 1:

That's a tool, that's a legitimate skill. Yeah, yeah it is that you can put under your belt and use.

Speaker 2:

It's under my belt, I use it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I use it every day. Yes, do you help a lot of your clients with that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, trusting our intuition is not something that, when we are born and growing up, that we are taught to do, and it is probably the most important thing any one of us can do and, by nature of somebody hiring somebody outside of themselves for feedback on their life, it is something that that person typically will have a difficult time doing. Yeah Right, think about the person who outsources their life coaching or outsources their freedom or outsource and there's nothing wrong with that and I respect it. You know that you feel like I don't trust myself with my intuition, so I want somebody else to have a different perspective on it. So, of course, that person is going to need help with trusting themselves deeper, and so I do that's what I help people with help them see the truth of who they are.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's crazy. Well, what do you think that like? Before people come to you, what are, like, their most symptoms?

Speaker 2:

yeah, like currently that you've been experiencing yeah, I would say lack of integrity in small ways, like in ways that you say to yourself oh, it's no big deal. I have a lack of integrity with, um, telling somebody my sexuality. Or I've lack of integrity with telling somebody what type of food I eat. Or I have lack of integrity with telling people I don't really want to go to that event. When you start betraying yourself in these ways, of course you're going to build a muscle of not trusting yourself and, of course, when you confront that, you're going to confront all the times that you said I'm going to betray myself.

Speaker 2:

There's a guy that I'm not working with but is involved in the things that I'm doing, and it's like he was having an alcohol, like his identity was somebody who drank alcohol and he was known as that in his corporate environment and he started saying no, I don't want to drink alcohol.

Speaker 2:

And he's noticed the discomfort that arises from saying no for the first time, or saying no for the first week or month, or, and so what's so cool is the more times you say no when you actually mean no is the more you're reinforcing the person that you want to be, and the fascinating part is the amount of times he said yes to the alcohol when he actually didn't want to and betrayed himself, is going to be the amount of times that he says no to the alcohol. And why it's so difficult to say no is because he said yes so many times and he's built up this backlog of yeses where he was out of integrity. And now he's got to build this backlog of no's and when he completes that, when he evens out the cycle, he'll feel complete and he'll be able to drink alcohol whenever he wants to. That is in integrity with himself.

Speaker 1:

That's another tool. There it's like integrity using no as a tool. Do you have any other tools? Tools, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think of tools as ways to listen to yourself. So one of the first things to come to mind is just to sit with yourself, set a timer. Another tool that I've really recently loved and used a lot is something called morning pages. It's when you write 750 words, stream of consciousness, whatever comes to mind. I'm doing a thousand words a day, so I just sit down on the keyboard, I say January 22nd, guys, 9.33 AM, and I just write whatever comes to mind. And it could be I don't want to write right now and I had a great morning and this is what's happened, and I actually do want to write now. Random shit, Random shit.

Speaker 2:

Whatever comes to, comes to mind you will become. You will have such a deeper, intimate understanding of your own mind. After doing this, you'll have much more trust of yourself. If you are create, if you are in a creative field which, if you're human, you're probably in a creative field if you listen to this um, you're going to find it easier to tap into your creativity because you're going to trust yourself more. For I'm writing this book right now and when I'm writing my morning pages, I'll often start writing about the book and I trust myself. I trust what I'm writing because I have trust in myself by putting on the keyboard what is in my mind. Be like that is right, if what I'm thinking is right Now imagine a songwriter who had that ability. Imagine the writer who has that ability. Imagine the podcaster who genuinely believes that what they are thinking is the right thing for them to think. That changes everything.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, what a skill, because I can see that, like you doing that and developing the muscle of that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Is, then you'd be able to tap into it, right? So when you are writing your book, right, you come to like I'm doing some focus work on my book. Right now I want to write about you know, this is the chapter that I'm writing on this one I'm gonna write about yeah, cool, what am I gonna say? Like okay, I've got my structure, whatever it is, yeah, bang.

Speaker 2:

and then you're just in, correct, like there's no like, what am I gonna write about now? What's happening? What it's? Just complete trust of self and complete uh, you don't need to overthink it. Just what is your first thought? Is your first thought right? That's the question so many of us, uh, are dealing with on a consistent basis. Is my first thought correct? And when you start to trust that, when you start to really say yes, my first thought is right, you're starting speaking with more confidence. You start who you are presenting and who my first thought is right you'll start speaking with more confidence. You'll start who you are presenting and who you are in your core is a deeper, truer, more authentic, real version of yourself. It's a game changer. I write a thousand words every day, have for the past four weeks and I've loved the practice so much.

Speaker 1:

Danny, thank you for coming on to the show. For those who don't know where to find you or get involved in your coaching, where can they go?

Speaker 2:

You can check out my stuff at HeyDannyMiranda, but really I just want you to, if you can, just see what you can do today to brighten someone's day. Give someone a call, send someone some love. Just take out your phone right now You're probably looking at it Send someone a text message who you love, who you haven't spoke to in a while. Really, it's not about following me, it's about following yourself, tapping into the truth of who you are and using that to spread love and light to other people.

Speaker 1:

And if you love Danny's message and you love the podcast, please give us a like and leave us a comment with a little rating below and let us know your thoughts and opinions because we'll get back to the comments. Thank you, guys, so much.